Better Pastors Podcast

Matt and Zac talk to Matt Laginess about church planting, different leadership, and excellence. Connect With Matt- mlaginess@gmail.com facebook.com/mlaginess Stuff Matt Talked about- Google Assitant (sorry iPhone users) The Hobbit Matt as a Cheerleader (top right) Beanie Baby Divorce Intro Music – Rockin’ Riff, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS Outro Music- In Your Robotic Heart, by NICOLAI HEIDLAS